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so i am sure most of you know that Satoshi lived in Kyoto for about two years prior to debuting in Arashi.  You may also know that in Kyoto, they speak the Kyoto dialect, which is very similar to the Osaka dialect that you will hear many comedians speaking.  It is pretty much the same except Kyoto people don't speak so loud or fast or aggressively as Osaka people.   My dad is from Kyoto and I really wish he could have taught me how to speak the Kyoto dialect since I LOVE dialects as part of my general love for local characteristics.  Anyway, once in a while, Satoshi will say things in this Kyoto dialect and it makes me very happy.  He never talks at length in the Kyoto dialect (I am sure he couldn't pick up that much in his two years), but he'll just say short phrases or end sentences using "~yane" instead of "~dane".  If Satoshi were to be from anywhere other than Tokyo I could totally see him being a Kyoto or Nara guy.  Maybe more Nara than Kyoto since Kyoto people can be very mean-spirited and sharp.  Nara seems to produce very laid back and calm people (see Domoto Tsuyoshi or Joshima Shigeru as examples) so it's probably closer to Satoshi's nature.


Totally unrelated, I was thinking about the S and M personality traits the other day while jogging (yes, my brain is wired a bit oddly) and which one each member would fit into. I think the key difference lies in the wish to control and who that wish is directed against.   And since the S/M categorizations are best brought to light by what kind of behavior you are willing to engage in in that most vulnerable, honest and primitive of human acts - sex - I will talk about what role I see them playing in the bedroom too. 

Let's start with Jun.  Everyone calls him the Do-S for good reason.  He likes to be in control of the situation at all times.  His sense of control is directed outwardly.  But I think this comes from a deeper feeling of NOT being in control.  People who truly and genuinely feel in control don't need to be so pre-occupied by it, you know?  Control is only an issue for those who fear they lack it.  But always thinking about control makes you controlled by the need to control, and that can be very tiresome.   So I can totally imagine Jun having M-type fantasies (in extreme terms blindfolds or bondage and in not so extreme terms just enjoying being the more passive, receiving partner) because he probably wants someone else to take the reigns from him and let him lose control.  So I think while Jun is generally and for sure outwardly S, in terms of sex kinks, he is probably M.  I don't think he can allow himself to be an M in any other situation because it would scare him too much.  I think during sex, he would want to pretend to be someone else, a someone else who is not in control of the situation. I see Jun having the most pronounced and defined sex fantasies/kinks out of the whole group.  Someone who is as passionate and hot-tempered like Jun has got to have some pretty out there fantasies, don't you think?

Ohno, on the other hand, acts outwardly as an M.  He is always on the receiving end of jokes, and let's face it, he seems to enjoy it.  But I totally peg him (excuse my choice of words) as a complete dominatrix (why is there no male version of this noun?) in the bedroom.  I think he has a healthier relationship with control than Jun.  He said in interviews that he used to be much more the blood type A personality, so he was a worry-wart, meticulous, paranoid, and sensitive.  He says he's pretty much lost all of that now.  He said he's been able to lose that because of the confidence that he's been able to build up over years of performing.  So I don't know about Ohno in the past, but I think Ohno now doesn't worry about being in control of a situation.  He is comfortable and self-assured enough to just let things go, knowing that he (or someone else) can and will always salvage the situation.  So I don't think he thinks about control that much, at least when it comes to controlling others.  Ohno's sense of control is more directed at himself.  He talks about how he makes crazy rules for himself when he is painting because he doesn't want to lose to himself. (like "if I don't make 10 figures, I am shaving an eyebrow off."  i do not make this up - i think he said it in some interview during the time he was showing freestyle.)  He also was going to quit johnny's because he satisfied his own need to master dance.  it's the typical dance cliche, but he was someone who truly danced for himself.  a lot of psychoanalysts and fortune tellers have also noted his strong desire to be a master of his own self.   And I think people who are so in control of their own selves would have the confidence and arrogance that you need to be the kind of aggressive dominatrix in the bedroom.  You gotta have guts to take on that kind of responsibility of making sure the other person has a good time in your hands.  So that's why I can't really see Satoshi being a true M in the bedroom.  Even if he does act the receptive role, he would still be the one dominating the power dynamic.  He'd subtly or not so subtly, consciously or subconsciously control the entire situation, even if he were somehow physically in the more passive role. He's said himself that he used to think he's an M but he recently realized he is an S because he is not able to change himself to adapt to others.  He has to go at his own pace.  He also acknowledged though that on the flip-side, maybe his desire to be in charge of his own self makes him M in the sense that he will punish himself for failing to meet his own goals.   But since my theory is that S and M characteristics are defined by your relationship to the other, the world and not the self, I think this desire to punish himself is irrelevant.  

So I guess I conclude that people who are S have M sex fantasies and people who are M are actually S in the bedroom.... strange.  but i guess sex fantasies are fantasies because they are departures from the ordinary.  An S person having S fantasies would just be an extension of their normal selves, and while that may be a characteristic of their sexual behavior, it wouldn't really be a kink or fantasy, I guess.

Sho I think is the same type as Jun although a bit more chill about it all.  I think control-freaks are those that have the weakest sense of self and self-confidence, and I think he is more self-assured than Matsujun, so he can let himself go a lot more easily than Jun. 

Aiba I see as more the Ohno type, though only in result and not in motivation.   With him, I don't see the strong need to master his own self.  Rather, I think he relinquishes control over others just because it's a non-issue for him.  I don't think control and power are part of his vocabulary, at least not consciously.  I see a lot of self-doubt in him, but unlike with Jun, that doesn't propel him into a desire to rule his world with an iron fist like Matsujun.  I think he just accepts his lack of authority and goes with it.  But in reality, he dictates the atmosphere that forms around him.  He isn't called the Arashi moodmaker for nothing.  With him though, it's more that people orient themselves to him and adjust to him not because they are forced to but because they want to.  So I guess he's the soft-power type.  

And finally, our resident alien Nino.  I honestly can't read this guy.  I guess I see him as the Jun type, but I don't see a strong desire to control people in him.  He's often characterized as manipulative, but I don't know if I agree with that.  I think he just doesn't care about human relationship dynamics.  He either doesn't care or recognizes the futility of it all and can't be arsed to present a consistent, characteristic behavorial pattern.  He's a gemini, and they are seriously mysteries.  I mean he obviously is very aware of what is going on around him and he is often the one that will keep the group in check, but I think that's out of a sense of professionalism and i don't think he's that way in his everyday life.  i think he just recognizes that he has a sharp, fast mind and has the wit and the touch that is needed to play the kind of role that he plays.  it's more out of a sense of duty than anything else that he presents a facade as an S tsukkomi.   He's chameleon-like in nature, so in the bedroom, I can totally see him being either S or M.


ahhh, uninformed, irresponsible psychoanalysis is so much fun. 

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sunnydreams416
Nov. 10th, 2009 01:52 am (UTC)
and fun to read after a long day filled with hard core science classes!
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:28 pm (UTC)
yay!? i hope that's a good thing and not a veiled mockery of my utterly uninformed ramblings. It's the former, right? RIGHT? *self-doubting blood type A virgo desperately asking for validation*
sunnydreams416
Nov. 10th, 2009 07:23 pm (UTC)
it is a good thing! i was seriously so burnt out yesterday after all my science classes that it was fun to read your "ramblings"!!! i love reading your posts because they intrigue me and makes me think about things, and not only Arashi, in different ways ^^

*is really sorry she made you self-doubt!*
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
haha oh no worries i self-doubt fine on my own lol! i actually am flattered a hard core science person is not COMPLETELY turned off by my fake science XD

sunnydreams416
Nov. 10th, 2009 07:42 pm (UTC)
lol, i wouldn't say that i'm a hard core science person... more like a person who has to take hard core science classes! if it would have been possible to be an art history major, take the prereqs for pharmacy school and still graduate while my parents were willing to pay for my education then i wouldn't have been a chem major!
g_esquared
Nov. 10th, 2009 10:09 am (UTC)
I adore your so-called uninformed, irresponsible psychoanalysis. Can I just say you're one of the most articulate people I've ever met, seriously. I hope reading it rubs off on me. :D
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:25 pm (UTC)
You flatter me too much! I say the same thing right back to you! Maybe I am just not in touch with my emotions but I am always astounded by people who have the ability to represent the psyche through words, and you are such a person! seriously, i am a very critical person and i don't say things i don't mean. you are the author that most intrigues me right now, so i am a bit starstruck by your compliments XD
g_esquared
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:41 pm (UTC)
No kidding! You give me waaay too much credit, I hope I live up to it. Appreciate it fully, though :D

Just so you know, I don't comment very much on your posts but I seriously read all of them because they are fantastically written (case in point: whenever you talk about/analyze Arashi and their music) whether or not as fandom posts, and yet are not fic, and that is all too rare around here. And now I'll pretty much read whatever you choose to talk about XD
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 07:26 pm (UTC)
ok this is starting to look suspiciously like we are just boosting each other's egos so i'll stop, but let me just say i am walking around with a little hop in my step now XD
oviparous
Nov. 10th, 2009 01:25 pm (UTC)
i want to talk to you. because you are so free. XDD
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:27 pm (UTC)
haha i know. i have an unnatural amount of free time. i either really am that much more efficient now or i just have a really messed up sense of the amount of work I have to do.
oviparous
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:32 pm (UTC)
i like the free you. XD man you have no idea how many things i want to say about this piece but i have no time to because of the word count! and i have so much (else) to tell you i feel like i'm bursting. XD

satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:36 pm (UTC)
we don't want you to burst, now do we? that would not be good lol.

and what word count?
oviparous
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:39 pm (UTC)
word count = essay that i wish to write regarding what you said. and a little more rambling re: arashi of my own. XD
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:45 pm (UTC)
ahhh haha. damn them word limits! i am re-reading your intro post (like the one about you) and am going to read this new writing you have up. i got really excited. "what is this link?" says. Click on it, i do. And jump for joy, i almost did.

... ignore me.
oviparous
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:34 pm (UTC)
btw was reading your comment and watermelon says in a very low small voice: "you're smiling to yourself."

oh, yukopon. see, the things you make me do.
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:38 pm (UTC)
har har i can totally picture that. i am liking your husband more and more, i must admit. haha i hope that doesn't creep me out. and don't get me wrong, i had a very good impression of him from the very beginning (you did choose to spend your life with him after all, and i trust your sense and taste) but i think i am starting to like him independently and not just as your other half. ok creepy comment stop now.
oviparous
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:43 pm (UTC)
oh you don't know half the things he says.

just two seconds ago:

him: go to sleep. it's late.
me: no, i'm reading yuko's comment.
him: go to sleep.
me: but it's yuko. you like yuko.
him: no, i don't like yuko.
(pause)
him: who's yuko?
me: the lawyer.
him: oh. i like yuko~

WORD FOR WORD, BABY.

and no you are not creepy. i love it that you like my husband. YAY. XD

and i am going to email you soon for your phone number because i would like to text you. XD
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 03:47 pm (UTC)
XDDDDDDDD YAY he likes me! he really likes me!

and oh my gawd can you text me all the way from singapore? wait WAIT can i text back? what is this magic that you speak of?
miung
Nov. 10th, 2009 10:53 pm (UTC)
C'est fou ce que ce genre de sujet fait commenter les gens xDD
Arashi : DoS ou DoM???

A vrai dire ce que tu dis est assez intéressant. Hormis Ohno et Nino, je ne m'étais jamais demandée s'ils étaient plutôt S ou M dans l'intimité :p
Je vois Riida comme quelqu'un de passionné. Je l'imagine à la fois tendre/doux (voir le scandale de l'été dernier), mais capable d'être fougueux dans le feu de l'action ^^

Pour ce qui concerne Ninomiya, c'est plus difficile mais je le vois aussi passionné. Probablement parce que les deux ont une image d'obsédés dans le groupe (avec Aiba) :p Puis Nino parait tellement bien sentir les choses : à mon avis, c'est la même chose avec les femmes. Il doit s'adapter selon ses humeurs et celles de sa partenaire.

Aiba EST UN OBSEDE!!!!! XDDD Mais un obsédé gentil et fun : donc j'imagine que ça doit quelque chose!! lol Pareil je ne le vois pas plus M ou S. Un peu des deux?

Sho-kun. Hummmmm celui que j'ai le plus de mal à cerner. Il est lunatique, semble avoir une vision plus "traditionnelle" des rapports amoureux. Il parait qu'il a un faible pour les femmes plus âgées. Peut être aime-t-il être soumis ? XDDD

Enfin Jun. Aaaaaa Jun. Sous son air DoS, je crois que c'est un gars profondément aimant et assez romantique. Alors je ne crois pas que dans l'intimité il soit DoS. Sadique quand il s'agit de se moquer de ses amis, oui. Mais pas pour l'intimité. Alors en M, pourquoi pas?? Cela offre des perspectives intéressantes :p
satopi3104
Nov. 10th, 2009 11:16 pm (UTC)
ca me fait rire que le post (comment dit-on "post" en francais?) qui a eu le plus grand nombre de reponses etait celui ou j'ai parle d'orgasmes. nous sommes toutes les obsedees!

c'etait amusant de lire tes points de vue sur ce sujet tres important.

et oui, tout le monde sait bien que aiba est un obsede! t'as vu l'episode de shukudai kun ou il a commence de donner ses raisons de ne pas aimer le fromage? Il s'est arrete en disant "si je le dis, je serai banni." Et je crois que ce qu'il etait en train de dire est que le fromage a le meme gout que... euh... l'endroit intime de la femme (comment dit-on private parts en francais?) HAHAHAHAHA Aiba je t'adore!

tu crois que sho aime les femmes plus agees? c'est drole car j'imagine qu'il prefere les positions de pouvoir. Tous les autres je peux imaginer avec les femmes plus agees, mais pas Sho!

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